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Christa B.август 2025ПозитивниLarge sites with nice views (in the back) No dogs and no children Camping place nicely decorated everywhere with flowers and flowering plants Beautiful swimming pondНегативиShower curtain and stuffy in the shower stalls, but we heard they were going to build a new plumbing building in November.ReviewWe look back on the beautiful vacation here with lots of cycling fun. Beautiful cycling routes with cycling nodes.Автоматично преведено.Отговорено от 50plus Campingpark Fisching - Adults only - keine Hunde 10 септември 2025Thank you very much for your lovely feedback! 🌿🚴
We are very pleased that you enjoyed the large pitches with a view, the flowering design of the site, the natural swimming pond and the peace and quiet without dogs and children. We are also very pleased with your praise of the cycle routes and junctions... - the Mur Valley really is a paradise for cyclists.
We are grateful for your comment about the shower cubicles. We are already working on offering our guests even more comfort in the future.
We are delighted that you have such positive impressions of your vacation with us - we would be delighted to welcome you back to the 50plus Campingpark Fisching!
Best regards
Your Pfandl family & the whole teamАвтоматично преведено.- Christoff C.август 2025ПозитивниFriendly and uncomplicated welcome, good restaurant with excellent food, very friendly service and time for conversation The size of the plots (you can even choose the plot) and the beautiful grounds.НегативиEverything was perfect for us.Great quiet campsiteFriendly and uncomplicated welcome, good restaurant with excellent food, very friendly service and time for conversation
The size of the plots (you can even choose the plot) and the beautiful grounds.Автоматично преведено.Отговорено от 50plus Campingpark Fisching - Adults only - keine Hunde 10 септември 2025Thank you so much for your wonderful feedback! 🌿✨
We are delighted that you enjoyed the friendly welcome, the free choice of pitches, the spaciousness of the pitches and our well-kept grounds. We particularly appreciate your praise for our restaurant and the time you spent talking to us - that's what... makes a personal atmosphere for us.
We are already looking forward to welcoming you again soon at the 50plus Campingpark Fisching - for more relaxing days in peaceful surroundings.
Best regards
Your Pfandl family & the whole teamАвтоматично преведено. 
Andreas R.август 2025ПозитивниVery large pitches, beautifully landscaped swimming pondНегативиUnfortunately, some information that would have been important to us was not communicated.Beautiful campsiteGoogle reviews at a glance
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Andreas Ritter
4/5
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The campsite is beautifully laid out. The swimming pond and the grounds around it are beautiful. There are hammocks and chairs everywhere to make yourself comfortable. I could describe some of the lamps and chairs as "kitsch", but on this site it somehow fits. The sanitary facilities are perfectly clean and beautiful. The pitches are huge, a little too big for my taste. We moved and then stood on the flower meadow. The site has perfect morning and evening sun. We found it a pity that the Zape is very well advertised on the website and then it is only set up on Saturdays. Just like the Backhenderl, which is only available on Sundays. When I asked for rental bikes, unfortunately I didn't get all the information in advance. We also found the rather strict rules regarding noise and music funny, because when the engines are already being started on the Ring in the morning and it feels like a military plane flies over you every 30 minutes or a train passes by, music doesn't bother you either. But none of this should detract from the great campsite. If you are looking for quiet, large pitches and have your own bike, this is the perfect place for you. The reception was very friendly, the food in the restaurant was delicious and the swimming pond is beautiful.
In our opinion, the price is not quite justified, i.e. too expensive.Автоматично преведено.Отговорено от 50plus Campingpark Fisching - Adults only - keine Hunde 7 септември 2025Thank you for your honest and detailed feedback! 🌿
We are delighted that you had such a positive experience at our camping park with its large pitches, beautifully landscaped swimming pond, hammocks & retreats, clean sanitary facilities and our kitchen.
We take your comments seriously:
- Zape & Backhendl:... These special highlights deliberately take place on fixed days so that all guests have an equal opportunity to take part. We will make this even clearer in future to avoid any misunderstandings.
- Rental bikes: Thank you for pointing this out - we would like to provide more detailed information in advance in future.
- Rules & surroundings: Our house rules on quiet times serve to promote mutual respect on the pitch. The fact that external influences such as the Red Bull Ring, railroad or military are perceptible is beyond our control - it is all the more important for us to ensure genuine peace and relaxation inside the campsite.
- Pricing: We understand your assessment. Our prices reflect the spacious pitches, the high quality of care, our infrastructure and the personal service we provide. We are convinced that many guests appreciate precisely this quality, but we are happy to take your feedback on board.
We thank you for your open words - and would be delighted to welcome you back again, perhaps on a sunny pitch by the flower meadow. 🌞
Best regards
Your Pfandl family & the entire team from 50plus Campingpark FischingАвтоматично преведено.- Dieter M.август 2025ПозитивниUncomplicated booking, friendly reception, beautiful pitch with well-kept lawn and gravelled pitchНегативиI can't think of anythingCamping in Fisching - it doesn't get any better than thisA wonderful, family-run campsite with friendly staff.
We love the 50+ system.
The boss is at the stove and enchanted us with her cooking skills.
The rest of the family takes care of the service, site maintenance and keeping the well-maintained sanitary facilities clean.
It's all addictive!Автоматично преведено.Отговорено от 50plus Campingpark Fisching - Adults only - keine Hunde 7 септември 2025Thank you very much for your great feedback! 🌿✨
We are delighted that you enjoyed our 50plus concept, the well-kept pitches, the cleanliness and, above all, the warmth of our family. Your praise for our kitchen and the entire team means a lot to us - that's exactly what we do our best for.
Your sentence... "It's all addictive!" is the best compliment of all for us. 💚 We look forward to welcoming you again soon at the 50plus Campingpark Fisching!
Best regards
Your Pfandl family & the whole teamАвтоматично преведено. - Gernot D.август 2025Позитивниthe place in general, the peace and quiet and the beautiful surroundings, the newly laid out pitches with a flower meadow, the new sanitary building under constructionНегативиeverything fittedRelaxation vacationIn our almost 10 years of camping we have never had such a quiet place in such great surroundings. The peace and quiet during the day and in the evening was very relaxing and allowed us to enjoy our vacation to the full. In particular, the efforts of this family business should be emphasized, as well... as the excellent cuisine. We can only warmly recommend the campsite, especially to those seeking peace and quiet, and thank you for these wonderful 14 daysАвтоматично преведено.Отговорено от 50plus Campingpark Fisching - Adults only - keine Hunde 2 септември 2025Thank you so much for your wonderful feedback and recommendation! 🌿✨
We are delighted that you have found exactly what we want to offer our guests: Peace, relaxation and a lovingly maintained environment. The fact that you were able to enjoy your 14 days so much is the best compliment for us.
A big... thank you also for your words of praise about our family work and the cuisine - both are very important to us.
We are already looking forward to welcoming you again!
Best regards
Your Pfandl family & the whole team from 50plus Campingpark FischingАвтоматично преведено. 
Udo K.август 2025ПозитивниInfrastructure of the campsite, cleanliness, personal service and the gastronomyНегативиSanitary facilities in the central building do not correspond to the number of spacesTop placeA place for rest, relaxation and sporting activities.
Particularly suitable for motorcycle tours, cycling and MTB biking.
The chef of the kitchen takes care of the culinary delights.
The place is always worth a visit.Автоматично преведено.Отговорено от 50plus Campingpark Fisching - Adults only - keine Hunde 28 август 2025Thank you very much for your great feedback! 🌿✨
We are delighted that you found our camping park to be a place for rest, relaxation and sporting activities. We especially appreciate your praise for the cleanliness, infrastructure, gastronomy and our personal service - that means a lot to us.
We take... your comment about the sanitary facilities in the central building seriously. We are aware that it can get crowded at peak times and we are working on further improving the comfort for our guests.
We are very pleased that you enjoyed your stay - and say: See you soon, whether by motorcycle, bicycle or simply to relax. 🚴♂️🏍️🌞
Best regards
Your Pfandl family & the whole team from 50plus Campingpark FischingАвтоматично преведено.
Renate H.август 2025ПозитивниBeautiful garden and lovely pitches.НегативиThe restaurant only serves hot food from 5.00 pm.Cozy timeBeautiful garden with large pitches. Very clean sanitary facilities.
Idyllic spots with loungers or hammocks to relax. Beautiful swimming pond and a large flower meadow with seating areas to enjoy the sunset.
The operators take great care of their guests. Weekend evenings with a special bar and special drinks.
The area is suitable for cyclists and hikers.
A cozy place. Close to Zeltweg/Red Bull Ring.Автоматично преведено.Отговорено от 50plus Campingpark Fisching - Adults only - keine Hunde 24 август 2025Thank you very much for your detailed and nice feedback! 🌿✨
We are very pleased that you enjoyed the spacious pitches, our well-tended garden, the many small oases for sunbathing and relaxing as well as the natural swimming pond. Your praise for the friendly service and the special atmosphere at the... ZAPE bar at the weekend also means a lot to us. 🍹
The comment about meal times is correct - our hot kitchen opens at 5 pm so that we can prepare everything fresh and with regional ingredients. During the day, however, refreshing ice cream creations and cakes are available.
We are delighted that you have also explored the surrounding area by bike and on foot - and we look forward to welcoming you back to the Murtal soon! 🚴♂️🌸
Best regards
Your Pfandl family & the entire team from 50plus Campingpark FischingАвтоматично преведено.
Maly R.август 2025ПозитивниVery friendly reception, good service. Due to the audience of guests rather +50 everything clean, one greets still really fine The swimming pond gets more beautiful from year to year. All in all, highly recommendedНегативиIf you stand further back, it is still a bit of a walk to the shower.Danger of addictionVery friendly reception, good service. Due to the audience of guests rather +50 everything clean, one greets still really fine
The swimming pond gets more beautiful from year to year. All in all, highly recommendedАвтоматично преведено.Отговорено от 50plus Campingpark Fisching - Adults only - keine Hunde 22 август 2025Thank you so much for your wonderful feedback! 🌿✨
We are delighted that you enjoyed the warm welcome, the cleanliness and the relaxed atmosphere among like-minded guests - this is exactly what our concept is designed for. Your praise for our natural bathing pond is also particularly nice - it's great... to hear that it gets even more beautiful for you every year. 💦🌸
We are aware that the path from the rear seats to the showers is a little longer - we are already working on this issue to offer our guests even more comfort in the future.
Your conclusion "addictive" is probably the best compliment for us. 💚 We are already looking forward to seeing you again!
Best regards
Your Pfandl family & the entire team from 50plus Campingpark FischingАвтоматично преведено.- Anita R.август 2025ПозитивниThe peace and quiet, the large pitch, the sunbathing lawn with hammock and the Senior Pfandl 😉НегативиThere is no potato salad with the schnitzelPeace and space enoughWe have been coming here for years and are always happy to return. The Pfandl family is very concerned about the well-being of their guests.Автоматично преведено.Отговорено от 50plus Campingpark Fisching - Adults only - keine Hunde 21 август 2025Thank you very much for your many years of loyalty and this charming feedback! 🌿😊
We are delighted that you keep coming back to us and appreciate the peace and quiet, the spacious pitches, our sunbathing lawn with hammocks - and of course the Senior Pfandl.
We take your comment about the potato salad... with the schnitzel with a smile - perhaps our kitchen will surprise you next time. 😉
We are already looking forward to seeing you again!
Best regards
Your Pfandl family & the whole team from 50plus Campingpark FischingАвтоматично преведено. 
WALTRAUT B.август 2025ПозитивниThe wonderful peace and quiet. The ambience. The friendliness of the hosts. The cleanliness. You could say simply everything.НегативиI can't think of anything.This place simply speaks for itselfSo this campsite is an absolute exception for us. Only meant in a positive way, of course. We, who are only at home and on the road in motorhomes, have already visited many places. But we have never found a place like Fisching. That's why we will come here again and again. Everything is just right here.... From the peace and quiet, the amenities, the food, the service, the friendliness of the entire host family and also the ambience and everything well thought out, we have been here for the second time and will definitely come back.
Mfg. The Bannert familyАвтоматично преведено.Отговорено от 50plus Campingpark Fisching - Adults only - keine Hunde 20 август 2025Many, many thanks for your exceptionally nice feedback! 🌿💚
It makes us really proud to read that - although you have seen so many campsites - you found our campsite to be something very special. That is exactly our aim: a place where peace, ambience, cleanliness and genuine hospitality come together... and where you feel at home from the very first minute.
Your sentence "Everything is just right here" is the greatest compliment and a wonderful motivation for us. We are delighted that you have already stayed with us for the second time and would like to come back - we say from the bottom of our hearts: welcome back as often as you like!
Best regards
Your Pfandl family & the whole team from 50plus Campingpark FischingАвтоматично преведено.- Kerstin B.август 2025ПозитивниQuiet, extremely relaxed atmosphere, very friendly operators and friendly staff, and the sanitary area was always spotlessly cleanНегативиIf I had to look for something, then a second sanitary area wouldn't be bad. But since this is planned anyway, this "criticism" is no longer valid.A place that delivers what it promisesA place that delivers what it promises. Peace, relaxation, very clean sanitary facilities.
Incredibly friendly operators who make every effort to ensure guests have a pleasant stay.
The family-run restaurant doesn't offer a large selection, but everything is fresh and tastes delicious. Quality rather than quantity.
Dear Pfandl family, we would like to thank you once again for your tireless efforts - we will definitely be back!!!Автоматично преведено.Отговорено от 50plus Campingpark Fisching - Adults only - keine Hunde 20 август 2025Thank you very much for your great feedback! 🌿✨
We are delighted that you enjoyed our concept of peace, relaxation and quality so much and that you felt completely at ease with us. Your praise for our family and our team - whether in daily operations or in the restaurant - means an incredible amount... to us. This is exactly why we give our best every day.
We understand your wish for a second sanitary area - and as you rightly write, we are already working on it. Until then, we are all the more pleased that you have highlighted the cleanliness and care so positively.
Your sentence "A place that delivers what it promises" is the best compliment for us. Thank you very much for your appreciation - we are already looking forward to your return!
Best regards
Your Pfandl family & the entire team from 50plus Campingpark FischingАвтоматично преведено. - Nico V.август 2025ПозитивниVriendelijkheid, netheid en rust op de campingНегативиAfzuiging van de douches, snel benauwd in de doucheLekker relaxNette verzorgde camping, leuk aangekleed, zwemvijver klein maar prima en schoon met bedden en hangmatten. Plekken zijn ruim, veel hebben maar 6A stroom. Sanitair keurig, vriendelijke familie die de camping runt. Heerlijke plek om tot rust te komen. Fietsroutes aanwezig, wel handig om de e-bike mee te nemen.Автоматично преведено.Отговорено от 50plus Campingpark Fisching - Adults only - keine Hunde 18 август 2025Thank you very much for your lovely and detailed feedback! 🌿
We are delighted that you enjoyed the friendliness, cleanliness and tranquillity of our campsite - that's exactly what our concept is made for. Your words of praise about the design, the spacious pitches, the natural swimming pond with loungers... & hammocks and our family also mean a lot to us.
We take your comment about the ventilation in the showers seriously - thank you for bringing it to our attention. Such feedback helps us to continue to improve.
It's great that you explored the region by bike - the many routes in the Mur Valley are particularly pleasant to discover on an e-bike. 🚴♀️🌄
We look forward to welcoming you again soon at the 50plus Campingpark Fisching!
Best regards
Your Pfandl family & the whole teamАвтоматично преведено. - Maximilian & Riki N.август 2025ПозитивниThe beautiful large 130m2 pitch no. 75 with the beautiful flower meadow.НегативиThe long way to the sanitary facilities (shower)Maximilian & Riki NeundlingerWe think the 50Plus campsite is great, the Pfandl family are very friendly and helpful, good food and a lovely garden. The site is beautifully laid out and well maintained, unfortunately the sanitary facilities are a long way from the large pitches.
For us the 5 days were very relaxing with a walk in... the flower meadow and bicycle excursions Weißkirchen - Zeltweg - Knittelfeld - Judenburg.
Unfortunately, the 100m2 pitches are very much included in the good price.
The electricity price would have to be charged separately, then the 6 amps could be increased to 16 amps and the pitch price reduced.
Despite everything, a very nice recommendable campsite for seniors.
Many thanks for your kindness with best regards
The Neundlinger familyАвтоматично преведено.Отговорено от 50plus Campingpark Fisching - Adults only - keine Hunde 17 август 2025Dear Neundlinger family,
Thank you very much for your detailed and honest feedback - and of course for the wonderful days you spent with us! 🌿
We are delighted that you enjoyed the spacious pitches on the flower meadow, the peace and quiet, the well-kept grounds and our hospitality. It's also great... to read that you explored the region by bike and on foot.
We take your comments about the distance to the sanitary facilities, the pitches and the power supply very seriously. We are constantly working to make our guests' stay even more comfortable - feedback like this is particularly valuable for us to implement further improvements.
Thank you very much for your praise, your suggestions and your recommendation - we look forward to welcoming you again soon!
Best regards
Your Pfandl family & the entire team from 50plus Campingpark Fisching 🌸Автоматично преведено. 
Alois T.август 2025ПозитивниA very quiet campsite without dogs and without small childrenНегативиIs there noHad a very very pleasant stay with them.It was an extremely pleasant stay with them. The camping team was always available, very friendly and helpful. The sundowner evening is a very nice opportunity to get into conversation with other camping guests. I can only warmly recommend the campsite.Автоматично преведено.Отговорено от 50plus Campingpark Fisching - Adults only - keine Hunde 17 август 2025Thank you so much for your wonderful feedback! 🌿✨
We are delighted that you found your stay with us so pleasant and that you particularly enjoyed the peace and quiet, the friendly and helpful service and our sundowner evening. It's moments like these - relaxed conversation and ending the evening together... - that make the camping park so special for many guests.
Your high praise and your recommendation mean a lot to us - and we would be delighted to welcome you back again soon.
Best regards
Your Pfandl family & the whole team from 50plus Campingpark FischingАвтоматично преведено.
Kerstin D.август 2025ПозитивниDas Konzept ohne Kinder und Hunde Der herzliche Empfang und die persönliche Betreuung Sauberkeit am Platz und Sanitäranlagen Good restaurant Beautiful bathing area Radwege rundherumНегативиDa fällt mir nichts einTopplatz mit stimmigem KonzeptVielen Dank an Familie Pfandl und Team für ihr Engagement und Herzblut dieses wunderschöne Stück Natur zu einem Paradies zu machen.
Wir haben uns sehr wohlgefühlt, besonders oben, auf unserem Wunschplatz an der Blumenwiese. Der Badeteich gleich nebenan, Blick auf die Blumen und Berge.
Das fehlende Kupplungsteil... für die Stromversorgung bekamen wir geliehen. Leider war unsere Elektropfanne letztendlich dann doch zu viel fürs Netz. Aber alles andere hat funktioniert und wir haben auch im Restaurant lecker gegessen.
Vielleicht gibt es ja in Zukunft mal ein zweites Sanitärgebäude weiter oben...
Bitte ohne Duschvorhänge, die sind unpraktisch. Aber alles war immer tiptop sauber.
Bitte weiter so, kommen gerne wiederАвтоматично преведено.Отговорено от 50plus Campingpark Fisching - Adults only - keine Hunde 17 август 2025Thank you so much for your detailed and lovely feedback! 🌿💚
We are delighted that you enjoyed our concept without children and dogs, the peace and quiet by the flower meadow, the cleanliness, our restaurant and the natural bathing pond. That's exactly what we put our heart and soul into - and it's... great to read that you felt that.
Thank you also for your comments: We are already working on a second sanitary building in the upper area - and we are also happy to take your feedback on the shower curtains on board. We are very pleased that we were able to help you with the missing coupling part without any complications - even if the electric pan was a bit of a challenge.
We are already looking forward to your return - and thank you for your warm words, which are both motivation and confirmation for us.
Best regards
Your Pfandl family & the entire team from 50plus Campingpark FischingАвтоматично преведено.- Christine M.август 2025ПозитивниSize of the pitch. Swimming pond. Food in the campsite restaurant.НегативиI liked everythingVery relaxing, beautiful campsiteIt was very relaxing on the CP50+. I have nothing against children, but I work in a kindergarten and enjoyed the peace and quiet without children. Unfortunately, dogs barking is sometimes very annoying on the campsite, which is of course not the case here. Beautiful cycle paths.... E.g. to the Red Bull RingАвтоматично преведено.Отговорено от 50plus Campingpark Fisching - Adults only - keine Hunde 17 август 2025Thank you very much for your lovely feedback! 🌿
We are delighted that you were able to enjoy the peace and quiet on our campsite - this is exactly what our 50plus concept is designed for: a break from everyday life, without the noise of children or barking dogs, to simply be with yourself for once....
We are delighted that you enjoyed the spacious pitches, the natural swimming pond, our restaurant and the cycle paths all the way to the Red Bull Ring. Your praise is a great motivation for us!
We would be delighted to welcome you back to the Murtal again soon.
Best regards
Your Pfandl family & the whole team from 50plus Campingpark FischingАвтоматично преведено. - Marion B.август 2025ПозитивниIt was just great, super place, beautiful location very quiet and super clean beautiful swimming pond nice operator family so warm, delicious foodНегативиToo far away from us otherwise we would go there more often there is nothing to complain aboutRating vacationSimply great a great quiet vacation delicious food clean sanitary facilities super swimming pond with sunbathing possibilities and hammockАвтоматично преведено.Отговорено от 50plus Campingpark Fisching - Adults only - keine Hunde 16 август 2025Thank you so much for your wonderful feedback! 🌿💚
We are delighted that you enjoyed your vacation with us so much - from the quiet location to the natural swimming pond, the food and the warm atmosphere. That's exactly what we do our best for.
It's a shame that the distance is too great for more... frequent visits - so we are all the more pleased when you make the journey to us and enjoy your time out at the 50plus camping park.
We very much hope to see you again - and say: see you next time in the Murtal!
Best regards
Your Pfandl family & the whole team from 50plus Campingpark FischingАвтоматично преведено. - Volker H.август 2025Позитивни- No children - Swimming pond - a wonderful way to cool off - Zape at the pond. A beautiful evening - Clean sanitary facilities - Delicious food in the restaurant - nice hostsНегативи- Gray water disposal can be solved betterA beautifully situated, quiet, clean placeWe were very happy with our pitch, which we were allowed to choose ourselves. Everything was well structured and well maintained.
We came to the E-MTB buoys and it was worth it. Great tours and huts. We will be back.Автоматично преведено.Отговорено от 50plus Campingpark Fisching - Adults only - keine Hunde 16 август 2025Thank you very much for your great feedback! 🌿🚴
We are very pleased that you enjoyed the peace and quiet, the swimming pond, the Zape in the evening and our restaurant - it is precisely this mix that makes the 50plus camping park a special place for many guests.
We are particularly pleased that you... were happy with your pitch and that you enjoyed using the region around the E-MTB buoys for your tours - the combination of nature, exercise and cozy huts is simply unbeatable.
We are happy to take on board your comment about the gray water disposal - we are constantly working to improve the comfort for our guests even further.
We are already looking forward to seeing you again - see you soon in the Murtal!
Best regards
Your Pfandl family & the whole team from 50plus Campingpark FischingАвтоматично преведено. - Robert K.август 2025ПозитивниSuper swimming pond, great pitch, very good kitchen, looking forward to the next timeНегативиWe liked everythingVacationWe always feel very good with you perfect to relax we will certainly come back soonАвтоматично преведено.Отговорено от 50plus Campingpark Fisching - Adults only - keine Hunde 16 август 2025Thank you very much for your kind feedback! 🌿😊
We are very pleased that you felt so comfortable with us and enjoyed the natural swimming pond, the pitches and our kitchen. That's exactly what our campsite is designed for: to relax, feel good and enjoy.
We are already looking forward to seeing you again - and say: See you soon at the 50plus Campingpark Fisching!
Best regards
Your Pfandl family & the whole teamАвтоматично преведено. - Susanne K.август 2025ПозитивниVery nice places, everything super well maintained and clean, dear family, super swims, absolute peace and quietНегативиEverything was great!VacationWe always like to come back, we feel very comfortable with you, you make sure that the guests are well. We will certainly come back this yearАвтоматично преведено.Отговорено от 50plus Campingpark Fisching - Adults only - keine Hunde 16 август 2025Thank you so much for your wonderful feedback! 🌿💚
We are delighted that you feel so comfortable with us and that you enjoy the well-kept pitches, the peace and quiet, the natural swimming pond and, above all, the personal atmosphere of our family. That is exactly our aim: to make every guest feel... welcome and in good hands.
How nice that you have already announced that you will be coming back this year - we are already looking forward to seeing you again!
Best regards
Your Pfandl family & the whole team from 50plus Campingpark FischingАвтоматично преведено.